Remembering Your Work of Faith in the Debates With Freeman

By Ron Halbrook

When a review of my debates with Jack Freeman is published, I would like to append an expression of deep appreciation for all who helped to make the debates possible. These brethren are to be commended for my inadequacies. Without them these two debates would have been far less effective.

Wayne Goforth’s stand for the truth occasioned these debates. Truman Smith supplied me with resource materials which were an invaluable aid in preparation. Harry Osborne spent countless hours studying with me and familiarizing me with the many twists and turns of error on divorce and remarriage, in addition to serving as my chart man during the actual debating. Mike Willis did a great deal of reading and research on the subject, gave me several important insights, and offered many helpful suggestions. David Padfield took my rough sketches of chart ideas and produced top quality charts from them. Keith Sharp and J. T. Smith shared useful materials with me, and J.T. called several times to give much needed encouragement.

Larry Hafley was an able moderator at both debates; his incisive mind and indomitable courage in the kingdom of God are constant sources of strength. The presence and advice of Cecil Willis was most helpful and encouraging. The Vegas Drive Church in Las Vegas extended their hospitality in a number of ways, and invited Harry Osborne, Larry Hafley, and myself to preach at their Sunday and Wednesday services. Doug and Kathy Freeman immediately adopted us as members of their own family. Keith Greer and his family are especially to be commended for making clear their stand for the truth at great personal sacrifice.

The frequent prayers, patience, financial support, and loving words offered by the church at West Columbia have sustained me throughout this challenging time. These debates would not have been possible without the constant love, patience, and help of my family. Thank you Donna, Jonathan, David and Deborah.

The fruit resulting from these debates abounds to the accounts of these good brethren and others who contributed so much to this effort, “We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers; remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father” (1 Thess. 1:2-3).

Guardian of Truth XXXIV: 11, p. 334
June 7, 1990

“Same Song – Second Verse” (1)

By Bobby R. Holmes

There is a little “ditty” that was popular when I was a boy growing up that went, -Same song, second verse, could get better, but it’s gonna get worse. ” I thought about that little “ditty” when I was given a clipping, by one of our members last Sunday (Feb. 25, 1990). It was taken from the “Entertainment” section of the Dallas Times Herald. It was entitled “Not the same old grind” by Robert Abele and concerned a “new” dance that is being offered to (and urged upon) the public. The article in part is as follows:

Couples on the dance floors around the United States may be getting to know each other sooner than they care to if the lambada catches on. The lambada, a Brazilian dance craze with its own hit European single, is trying to worm its way into the American consciousness as a sexy, snazzy, culturally hip body contact grove – a dirtier dancing. Dallas got its first live sampling of the sensuous dance last weekend at Prizm, a Deep Ellum nightclub. Press and public were treated to a performance of the lambada by, oddly enough, the Arthur Murray dancers – that bastion of the ballroom. It was an appropriately young group of couples, however, that swirled and gyrated to Kaoma’s European smash hit “Lambada,” the single that ignited lambada-mania. . . . Europeans loved it: In one instance, Frenchauto workers who were on strike told reporters they’d rather lambada than go back to work. The lambada’s trademark is constant body contact, and a grinding pelvic motion that keeps the action certifiably steamy (emp. mine – bh). Arthur Murray dancer Michael Hamilton labels it “the safe sex of the ’90s. ” What does it take to do the lambada, aside from sheer will power?

“It takes rhythm, a kind of looseness and maneuverability,” says Hamilton, of Dallas. “It’s a new sound and dance that’s going to bring partners back together on the dance floor.” (What he means is that it will bring back body contact dancing on the dance floor. -bh) . . . The gutsy movement and suggestive interlocking of limbs, however, is what seems to mystify onlookers most. At Prizm, the Arthur Murray dancers performed first as three separate couples, then in two groups of three – lambada “sandwiches” – and finally in one long chain lambada. And not one pelvic grind was lost (emp. mine – bh). “There’s definitely more freedom involved in Latin dancing,” says Kelly Heisler, another Arthur Murray performer. It’s getting to know your partner really close . . . The dancing is so fast, so swift, so torrid. It’s more aerobic than “dirty dancing,” and more fun.

Whatever our opinion of this style of dancing may be is of little importance. I do not believe that any style of dancing is conducive to Christianity and the saving of souls. (In stating this I am not referring to the dance of praise that was practiced under the Old Testament.) I believe I can prove this to all who would be honest with the word of God and themselves. I realize that the subject of dancing is seldom spoken on by religious leaders and that it (dancing) is readily accepted by society and by most of the modern religions of today. (Its acceptance has even invaded the church of Christ in some places.) To hear preaching on this subject is quite out of the ordinary, and to condemn the dance is to be branded as a radical, religious fanatic. If this be my lot, then so be it. One of the greatest contributing factors of weakness among Christians and churches lies at the feet of spineless, weak, mealy-mouthed, forked-tongued preachers who are more politicians than preachers of the word. Note the admonition of the Holy Spirit to preachers (2 Tim. 4:1-5): “I charge [thee] therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word, be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears, And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.”

Those who have chosen to preach need to get busy at the task assigned them by God. Too many are more afraid of losing their popularity or their pay checks than of the judgment of God. I affirm in the beginning of this article that the dance is: the child of the brothel, the sister of drunkenness, lewdness, divorce and murder, the mother of lust, and a road to hell! I shall now endeavor to prove these charges. Take your Bible and read of the shameful acts the Israelites engaged in while Moses was receiving the O.T. law from God (Exod. 32:1-6; 15-28). Note in verse 6 that it declares, “. . . the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. ” The “drink” wasn’t sweet milk and the “play” wasn’t ring-around-the-roses. This is obvious from the reading of verses 19 and 25. Verse 19 said they were dancing and verse 25 says they were naked. Some take exception with the wording found in verse 25 in the K.J.V. that declares they were “naked,” but there is strong evidence that upholds that rendering of it. Pulpit Commentary declares it to be correct (p. 340, Vol. 3). Its usage is certainly permitted according to Wilson’s O.T. Word Studies (p. 284). Take the Book of God now and turn to the New Testament and look at Mark 6:14-28. In this account of a young woman dancing before Herod and his companions, she “pleased him ” so much that he promised her anything she desired, even to the half of his kingdom (vv. 22-23). Now notice some points we have seen so far:

A. Drinking and dancing go hand in hand (Exod. 32:6). The same thing is true today!

B. Dancing and adultery go hand in hand (Exod. 32:6). The same thing is true today!

C. Dancing and nakedness go hand in hand (Exod. 32:6,25). The same thing is true today! Have you noticed that there are stores that sell special “dance clothes”? Why? They are designed to reveal more of the human body through their skimpiness or their tight fit so that the most can be gained. Many times a boy or girl’s lust is inflamed for the first time because of either the close contact of the human body, or, seeing the wiggling, twisting, suggestive motions of the opposite sex.

D. Dancing and murder go hand in hand (Mk. 6:14-28). The same thing is true today! Police records are full of evidence that supports this. A man begins to dance with another man’s wife, they begin to dance closer together as lusts begin to burn in them, the husband sees what is happening, a fight erupts and a life is taken. Deny it if you please but you know it happens.

We shall continue this study. Please, take your Bible and study these things for your self and take a stand for things that are right! May God help us to that end.

Guardian of Truth XXXIV: 12, pp. 353, 375
June 21, 1990

Looking for a Loophole

By Robert Wayne LaCoste

A loophole” is defined as “a means of evading something unpleasant.” (Webster’s New World Dictionary, p. 443). Human nature is such that people will go to almost any extreme to avoid the unpleasant, even if their action turns out in the long run to cause more severe unpleasantness.

We see this often in regard to spiritual matters. When discussing water baptism, it is not uncommon to see people come up with far fetched scenerios that, if it were not so series, would be down right amusing. “What if an alligator eats me before I can be baptized, surely you do not believe I would be lost?”

When it comes to the plain and simple truth of Jesus on marriage and divorce, people have exclaimed, “Well what if it wasn’t a divorce God recognized?This means when one of the parties finally commits fornication, then the other can mentally put them away or divorce them and scripturally remarry.” Of course, again it needs to be pointed out that God will recognize it as an unscriptural divorce! Jesus plainly said that such divorces were possible (Matt. 19:9) and that when it happens and the parties involved remarry, they are guilty of living in adultery. This idea of “mental divorce,” brethren, is not in the Scriptures and this loophole will not work to justify two people remarrying who do not have the right to do so!

How sad this is! Looking for a loophole is a definite reflection upon one’s attitude toward God and his word. One who has the proper love of God and respect for his word is not so inclined. We “fear God and keep his commandments” (Eccl. 12:13) in awe and trembling of who he is and what he can and will do. The humble servant of the Lord doesn’t look for loopholes. Rather his attitude is that of young Samuel, “Lord speak, thy servant heareth.”

How can one say he loves the Lord when he is looking for a way around plain and simple instruction? Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (Jn. 14:15).

Love obeys, it doesn’t look for a way of evasion.

Guardian of Truth XXXIV: 11, p. 342
June 7, 1990

Mother of God

By Steve Kearney

The Scriptures forthrightly teach that Mary is the mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. “And the angel said to her, ‘Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb, and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus'” (Lk. 1:30-31).

It is also clear, from the word of God, that Mary was a virgin when she conceived Jesus. “And Mary said to the angel, ‘How can this be, since I am a virgin?’ And the angel answered and said to her, ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God'”(Lk. 1:34-35).

As the Son of God, Jesus was God in the flesh. Colossians 2:9 states, “For in him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form.” The Twentieth Century New Testament translates the verse, “For in Christ the Godhead in all its fulness dwells incarnate.” It was just as the angel said to Joseph, “Behold the virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a Son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which translated means, ‘God with us’ (Matt. 1:23).

There are many sincere religious people who believe that, because Jesus is God in the flesh and because Mary is his mother, Mary is therefore the Mother of God. It is the intention in this lesson to demonstrate, that the title “Mother of God” is: (1) scripturally untrue; (2) scripturally illogical; and (3) scripturally condemned.

Scripturally Untrue

Saying the title “Mother of God” is scripturally untrue, will in the minds of some, cast a shadow over our belief in Jesus as true God and true man. But there is no “mental reservation” on our part when we teach that Jesus is God with us (Matt. 1:23). Like Thomas, I declare Jesus to be “My Lord and my God!”

As God, Jesus existed long before he was born of a virgin in a stable at Bethlehem. In his gospel (1:1), under the influence of the Holy Spirit, John reveals, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Jesus is here called the Word. We know the Word is Jesus from verse 14, “And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.” To get the full impact of John 1: 1 in relation to Jesus, let us substitute the name Jesus every time “the Word” is used. “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.” Jesus existed before the worlds were created, he worked as one with the Father and the Holy Spirit in creating everything. Colossians 1:15-17 says, “And He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities – all things have been created by him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” Jesus says of himself in Revelation 22:13, “1 am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

Psalms 90:2 gives us a measure on Jesus’ claim to being the beginning and the end, “From everlasting to everlasting, Thou art God.” Because God has no beginning and no end, the Word – Jesus Christ – has no beginning and no end.

Since the God part of Jesus had no beginning, can Mary be the mother of the God part of Jesus? The answer is no! Philippians 2:6-11 makes obvious that Mary did not bring the God part of Jesus into existence. Using the Amplified Version of the New Testament the verses read, “Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God (possessing the fulness of the attributes which make God God), did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained; but stripped himself (of all privileges and rightful dignity) so as to assume the guise of a servant (slave), in that he became like men and was born a human being. And after he had appeared in human form he abased and humbled himself (still further) and carried his obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of (the) cross! Therefore (because he stooped so low), God has highly exalted him and has freely bestowed on him the name which is above every name, that in (at) the name of Jesus every knee should (must) bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue (frankly and openly) confess and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Hebrews 10:5, “Therefore, when he comes into the world, he says, ‘Sacrifices and offerings Thou hast not desired, but a body Thou hast prepared for Me.'”

The body was prepared when the “Power of the Most High overshadowed Mary” and she conceived in her womb and brought forth a Son and called his name Jesus. Truly, Mary is the mother of Jesus. She is called the mother of Jesus in the Scriptures; but the Scriptures, no where, call her the mother of God. The everlasting God has no mother!

To counteract the force of that truth, The Teaching of Christ, a Catholic catechism for adults says (p. 117), “The traditional teaching about Christ is that the Word, the second Person of the Trinity, became incarnate from the first moment of His conception in Mary’s womb. Since the woman who conceives and gives birth to a person is that person’s mother, Mary is truly the mother of God because the Son of God took His human flesh from her.

“We cannot call our own mothers just, ‘the mother of our bodies,’ even though our souls are directly created by God Similarly, we cannot say that Mary is only the mother of Christ’s humanity, even though she did not beget His divinity. Although the divine nature of Christ is eternally begotten by the heavenly Father, by the incarnation He was conceived and born of Mary. She is, therefore, truly the mother of God.”

Although the writer admits that Mary could not be the mother of Christ’s divinity, he nevertheless wants to call her the Mother of God. He thinks that calling Mary the Mother of God is equivalent to calling my mother, the mother of Steve. The following chart should demonstrate the difference.

Steve Christ
As a person Steve is composed of two parts, body and spirit. As a person Jesus is composed of two parts, his humanity and his Deity.
God is the Father of my spirit. The Divine part of Jesus came from the Father.
My mother has given me my body. Mary, the mother of Jesus, gave him his body.
To call my mother, the mother of Steve, does not confuse my spirit which comes from God and my body which comes from my mother. In the same way, to call Mary the mother of Jesus, does not confuse the Divine part of Jesus which has always existed, with the body of Jesus which came from his mother.
If however you call my mother the mother of my spirit, it will confuse the distinction between my spirit and body. Such confusion is unscriptural and untrue. To call Mary the Mother of God also confuses the distinction between his Deity and his humanity. Such confusion is unscriptural and untrue.

Scripturally we can call Mary, the mother of Jesus. To call Mary the Mother of God is unscriptural and untrue!

Scripturally Illogical

In 2 John 9 we read, “Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.” 1 Peter 4:11 says, “Whoever speaks, let him speak, as it were, the utterances of God.” Galatians 1:8 says, “But even though we or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.”

By keeping ourselves within the confines imposed upon us by these passages we are constrained by the teaching of the Bible to make a distinction between the flesh and divinity of Jesus.

Paul, in Romans 9:4-5, identifies his kinsmen according to the flesh. “Who are Israelites, to whom belong the adoption as sons and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, andfrom whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all. God blessed forever. Amen.”

By refusing to acknowledge the distinction between the God part of Jesus and the fleshly part of Jesus, we are forced into this illogical stand.

Mary is a descendant of Israel.

Mary is the Mother of God.

Therefore, God is a descendant of Israel.

In logic this is called a syllogism. It’s a form of argument in which a conclusion is deducted from two propositions.

Every pious Jew delighted in Abraham as his father. They seemed to have believed that just being a child of Abraham was sufficient to get one into the kingdom of God. John the Baptist had to correct such superstition. In John 3:7-9 he said, “You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Therefore bring forth fruit in keeping with repentance; and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our Father’; for I say to you, that God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham.”

Every Jew identified with Abraham as “our father.” Jesus even admitted John 8:37, “I know that you are Abraham’s offspring.” By refusing to make a distinction between what Jesus was according to the flesh and what he was according to the Spirit (which is what is done by insisting that Mary is the Mother of God) we end up with this absurd proposition: Mary is the offspring of Abraham. Mary is the Mother of God. Therefore Abraham is the father of God. How could Jesus possibly say, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am” (Jn. 8:58). Scripture does not contradict itself, nor is it illogical. Scripture harmonizes all these truths about Jesus, Mary and Abraham. Mary is the mother of Jesus. Abraham is Christ’s forefather according to the flesh. As God, Jesus could say, “Before Abraham was born, I am.”

Jesus shows again and again that he is the Son of God and the Son of Man. Without this duality we would not be able to answer the difficult question Jesus asked the Pharisees about himself and David recorded in Matthew 22:41-46. Jesus is David’s son according to the flesh. He is David’s Lord through his divine pre-existence.

By accepting that, on occasions there has to be a distinction made between the fleshly side of Jesus and his divine side (simply because the Holy Scriptures make that distinction), then we can see that Jesus as a man has a genealogy which can be traced back from Mary through David and Abraham, even as far back as Adam (Lk. 3:38). By calling Mary the Mother of God we are forced to believe that God has a genealogy which can be traced back through David and Abraham. It would also mean that Adam is the father of God.

The term Mother of God is scripturally illogical!

Scripturally Condemned

Let us not be fooled by such a seemingly innocent title as Mother of God. This notion is the Trojan Horse for Mariolatry. It contains all the other titles and honors bestowed on Mary. I am even convinced that it allows for her full deification sometime in the future. Michael O’Carroll, in a Theological Encyclopedia of the Blessed Virgin (p. 257) admits, “It is not stated explicitly in Sacred Scripture that Mary is the Mother of God.” The term theotokos (meaning Mother of God) was first officially recognized at the Council of Ephesus in 431 A.D., far too late for it to be apostolic.

Yet, once it was accepted everything else followed naturally: Queen of Heaven, Mother of the Church, Coredemptorist, Mediatrix, Mother of Mercy. In DeMontfort’s book, The True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin, the author brings what is the unofficial conception of Mary’s greatness (p. 3); “Yet they exclaim that the height of her merits, which she has raised to the throne of Divinity cannot be perceived . . . that the greatness of her power, which she possesses over even God Himself, is beyond understanding.” Officially she is a created being, who was preserved without sin. Unofficially she has even the Father himself under her control.

Janus, was a Latin god represented with a double face looking both in front and behind. The Catholic Church can, like Janus, hold two totally opposite views at one time. This is definitely so on Mary. In a book called Father Smith Instructs Jackson (p. 83), Jackson remarks, “Then Catholics do not worship the Virgin Mary?” The priest answers, ‘No, that would be idolatry.'”

Yet Mary is worshiped in the same way Christ is worshiped. In some cases she is worshiped with more devotion. She has her own prayers, the Hail Mary, the Hail Holy Queen, the Rosary. People kneel before her statue and pray to her. People make altars to worship her. She has her own forms of religious services such as Sodalities, Hymns, Rosaries, wearing of the scapulars. Her special devotees belong to the Legion of Mary.

Peter would not accept worship from Cornelius (Acts 10:25-26). The angel would not accept worship from John (Rev. 22:8-9). When Satan tried to get Jesus to worship him, Jesus replied, “Begone Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.”‘ By worshiping Mary people have got themselves into an unscriptural and idolatrous practice. They have unwittingly fulfilled the words of Romans 1:25, “For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.”

The teaching that Mary is the Mother of God, and all that is implies is condemned by the Scriptures as “going too far and not abiding in the teaching of Christ” (2 Jn. 9). It is condemned by 1 Peter 4:11 because it is not a teaching which is according to the utterances of God. It is another gospel!

Conclusion

We have demonstrated that the title Mother of God is scripturally untrue, because the God part of Jesus is from everlasting to everlasting. We have shown it to be scripturally illogical because it would make Adam the father of God. The title Mother of God is also scripturally condemned because it causes us to worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen!

We conclude by this reminder from Deuteronomy 4:35: “To you it has been shown that you might know that the Lord, he is God; there is no other besides him.”

Guardian of Truth XXXIV: 11, pp. 339-341
June 7, 1990